you mentioned energy technology. energy tends to be -- there's any number of demonstration projects early in the things people can do, but it's the kind of activity that requires a degree of activity at scale and said that infrastructural support is very important than the federal government could do any number of things. one is simply to provide a safe harbor for corporate partners to come together, not unlike to bring them together with universities and create competitive research, including the plague research areas. to support shared infrastructure were smaller companies that need prototyping, some of the labs are providing major computational facilities to help companies that modeling and simulation to improve and begin to think about how to scale what they do. so it's kind of a daisy chain going from the fundamental research to creating safe harbors and partnerships that allow road months developed and people to move on as well. these are some of the things we traded to. for an upstate new york is so we don't h